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One of the things on my project checklist is to address the gore, or rather, the lack of it.

Nothing but firmly over the top will do, I'm afraid :)

What is the best Doom 3 implementation of gore to date?


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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2019, 05:01:05 AM »
Perfected has some nice gibbing FX, alongside better bloodsquirt particles.

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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2019, 11:43:37 AM »
W/o any code changes, D3 has a built in gib system not used to much.  https://web.archive.org/web/20070328060944/http://www.sterlingshield.net/home/steve/doom3/may05.html scroll down a little bit.
in the modeldef's you can add particles to joints too.
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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2019, 10:55:08 AM »
Hey thanks Friar, that looks like an interesting place to start.

Some of Prey and Q4's enemies also have some pseudo-gibbing features, which are achieved with different models and skins hiding certain materials. I was thinking to try and adapt some Doom 3 zombies like that, but I know very little about 3D modeling, unfortunately.

Dunno if the Perfected Doom 3 guy is still around?

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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2019, 06:32:34 PM »
Yeah. He's active on his ModDb.

https://www.moddb.com/members/vgames

You could look at this to see how it works

http://planetdoom.gamespy.com/View028a.html?view=Doom3Mods.Detail&id=90

It's a combination of particles, gib models and setting up the weapons that gib.

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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2019, 05:07:21 PM »
Alright, this information provided me with a few research-worthy leads. Thanks guys.

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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2019, 01:40:19 AM »
Okay, got it figured out. Spent a lot of time working on new particles, including blood sprays and splatters, which lead me to gibbing. I now have nice and painful-looking bullet wounds with blood gushing out, and scorch marks (with billowing smoke) for energy weapons.

As for gibbing, the setup is quite simple. You define a skin for each npc/monster that sets all used materials to textures/common/nodraw, then set it with 'skin_dropgib", so the monster instantly becomes invisible when gibbed. Then you spawn blood and gib chunks from joints.

So now all I need is better gib chunks. The ones in vanilla Doom 3 do not sell the illusion well at all.

Ideally, I would take each monster/NPC model, separate it into pieces (head, torso, arms, legs) and export each piece as a .lwo, to be spawned as a gib. Anybody know how to do this? Blender, I would presume?




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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2019, 07:51:06 PM »
You could remove the monster when gibbing via the monster's script file. I used "remove();" to remove them when they were killed by specific weapons and their health dropped to specific negative numbers. That way gibbing was more random and not so definite.

Blender would work.
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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2019, 03:59:22 AM »
Yeah, I was thinking to do this via scripts too. It's definitely more flexible that way. I really like how you've done the plasma rifle's alternate shot,
leaving nothing but a smoldering skeleton.


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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2019, 09:49:43 AM »
Yeah, I was thinking to do this via scripts too. It's definitely more flexible that way. I really like how you've done the plasma rifle's alternate shot,
leaving nothing but a smoldering skeleton.

Yeah it's got that FEAR inspired death.
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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2019, 11:36:29 AM »
FEAR is awesome.

Have you played the FEAR Complete mod?

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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2019, 02:27:35 PM »
No I haven't played any FEAR mods. Just the actual games 1 & 2.
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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2019, 01:13:23 AM »
FEAR 2 blew me away. Some of the best storytelling and creepiest horror I've witnessed in any game ever.

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Re: What's the best implementation of gore in a Doom 3 mod to date?
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2019, 10:21:35 AM »
I loved the mechs but FEAR 1 was superior.
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